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Титла: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: fifo в Февруари 10, 2020, 19:49:57

Тази година с жена ми решихме да отбележим празника на виното в неговата столица. Разбира се, няма нещо случайно. Знаех предварително каква програма да си направя и къде какви мероприятия се провеждат 😎

Дойдох, видях коли каквито рядко се срещат, поснимах и споделям.

Ланчиите ме посрещнаха още на входа.

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Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: USfan в Февруари 11, 2020, 22:44:50

Страхотно!  :)
Чакаме ти с удоволствие снимките, особено с на сенйорите Джани и Винченцо истинските им пре-Фиат конструкции.

Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: fifo в Февруари 12, 2020, 15:11:15

Еми, може и да разочаровам... Не успях да вляза в една от залите, а достъпа до парцела с колите на търг също беше ограничен. Изпокарах се там с организаторите, щото те си бяха прави за себе си, а аз за мен си, но това не промени особено нещата, та изпуснах татрите, 125 г. Шкода, 40 г. Фиат панда и кой знае още какво, но това не можа да помрачи настроението ми кой знае колко.
Също, не всички коли бяха италиански, но ето тук една френска кола с италиански мотор...

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Скоро ще пусна всички снимки, лично мен това "на час по лъжичка" много ме дразни, хаххаха. Просто още не сме се прибрали, а както се знае интернета у нас си е най-бръз и най-убав

Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: USfan в Февруари 12, 2020, 22:32:34

Уха, ралиджийски СМ, весело. 

Ама разбира се.  :)
Аз като съм в чужбина, също не пускам никакви снимки, докато не се прибера.
Основно да не си губя времето с бавен уай-фай, и да не си горя мегабайтите излишно през тел. Нет. Като се върнеш, тогава ги пускай другите, ще се чакаме. По-късно, но по-богато, е по-добре.

За чешките талиги, да, голям интерес нещо се заформи с тия тематики.
Пиша си тия дни с един англичани, големи фенове на Татри, и те ми казват, че сега ще е голямото завръщане в модата на тия чудни и чудновати коли.

На острова между другото има много сериозна група карачи и плащачи на Татри. В 90-те години вече затъващата автомобилна дивизия на Татра се самоиздържаше почти основно от продажби на по няколко бройки годишно за Англия основно експортирани, от последните Т-613-4 и T-700.
Тогава тия последни лифтингосани 613/T-700, не знам дали са били правени с десни волани, си бяха доста скъпи. Там на острова им искаха нови цени от по няколко десетки хиляди паунда.
Това преди 1/4 век си бяха цени, не много по-евтини от някоя добре оборудвана еС-класа или 7-ца.

Гледам по време на салона е имало два търга, на СОТБИ И АРТКУРИАЛ.
Тоя на Арткуриал чисто субективно го намирам с много слаби резултати.
Една огромна част от по-скъпите и редки коли ни са продадени, а тия продадените ги намирам шитнати за много умерени цени, за съответните им състояния и точни версии.
Като цяло, скептичните прогнози на пазарните анализатори по отн. на пазара на ретроколи сега и за в близко бъдеще, изглежда се реални. В посл. 2 години определено има някъде лек, а някъде и сериозен, спад на цените.

https://www.artcurial.com/en/sale-3980-retromobile-2020

https://www.artcurial.com/sites/default/files/2020-01/3980.pdf

А тоя на Сотби търга, според мен, въпреки общия по-малък от на Арткуриал приход, процентно като успеваемост и видимо по резултатите, е по-добре.
Специално в категорията високо класни немски спортни коли от 50-ти и 60-те години, постигнатите цени са си високи.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/pa20

https://rmsothebys.com/media/130236/rm-sothebys-paris-2020-results_lot-order_euro.pdf

Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: fifo в Февруари 17, 2020, 15:35:26

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Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: fifo в Февруари 17, 2020, 15:38:47

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Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: galaxie в Февруари 17, 2020, 16:28:25

Браво, голяма красота. За пореден път се убедих, че преди години са произвеждали произведения на изкуството. Голяма завист ме загриза, затова къде и се подмотвал. :)

Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: fifo в Февруари 18, 2020, 10:06:48

Посетих изложението в събота и макар, че отидох в 10, когато отвориха вратите, имаше огромна тълпа народ пред всеки от входовете. Това, че почакахме 20 мин. за да влезем не беше проблем, но заради тълпата трудно можеше да се направят читави снимки. Другото е въпрос на организация, от сега замислям в края на месец май ходене в Италия, като разбира се част от разходката включва и подобни мероприятия. Така де, не може само по музеи и магазини да се ходи. Иначе от този парижки тур бих отбелязал качването ми на кулата, (за мен си е постижение тази височина, Версай и не на последно място експозицията на Да Винчи в Лувъра - впечатляващо беше.

Черешката на тортата, поне за мен, бяха ето тези няколко автомобила на студио Бертоне от 70-те години.

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С това снимките ми приключват, като евентуално, ако се докопам до телефона на половинката, може в последствие да добавя още някоя.

Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: Speeder в Февруари 18, 2020, 10:19:52

Свилене, нямаш ли някоя снимка от щанда на Jim Stokes Workshop (JSW), предпочитаните реставратори на предвоенни Алфа Ромео ?

Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: fifo в Февруари 18, 2020, 15:09:19

Не, това е всичко.

Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: USfan в Февруари 18, 2020, 18:15:04

Благодаря Свилене, страхотни неща си снимал. :)

Тук истински се изненадах от една студия.
Аз по принцип помня студии, а тоя приличащ на ВХ прототип на Гандини, съм го пропуснал в десетилетията.
С тоя дизайн той е сътворил спортно хечбек купе, с името- Волво Тундра, което Бертоне показват в 1979 год.
По-късно обаче с тази студия неочакван обрат.
След не много време, изглежда Бертоне са го продали дизайна на Ситроен, като идея за бъдещия наследник на ГС моделите.
И, воала, реализирало се е спортното Волво, като семеен хечбек Ситроен с 5 врати.

Такива превратности като закичване на едни маркови емблеми на студии, а после реализирането им на дизайните под други марки, не е нетипично за дизайнерските къщи в близкото минало.

http://www.citroenet.org.uk/prototypes/xb/xb.html

Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: hydrometalique в Февруари 18, 2020, 20:53:28

Леле, този щанд на Бертоне си е истински пирон.
Голям кеф да сложан прототипа Camargue до Ферарито.
А Тундра Волвото - Ситроен ВХ ме прави просто горд. Седалките-бидета не е лошо да бъдат внедрени в съвременните колички, дето вече няма да ги карат хора. Та пътуващите хем да се возят, хем да си а*ат  :)) :))

Титла: Re: Retromobile Paris 2020
Публикувано от: krankenstein в Февруари 18, 2020, 21:13:53

Червената предвоенна Алфа кабрио е може би най-красивата от всички снимани коли.